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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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Posted - 2015.05.08 12:18:54 -
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I'm space middle class - probably worth about 100b total (not counting the value of my characters were I to sell them).
Rich is an EVE player that can decide, on a whim, "I want to buy a Titan and a pilot to sit in it" and can do so without really hurting.
How do you get there? Buy low, sell high, and do so on things that are scalable.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5077
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Posted - 2015.05.08 12:26:21 -
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Lan Wang wrote:depends if you mean liquid or total including assets, personally i have stopped holding liquid because i end up losing it all on iwantisk so i buy assets instead  but trading never worked for me either
Proof running a gambling site is the best scam in EVE
You don't even need to lie.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5078
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Posted - 2015.05.08 12:36:05 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Lan Wang wrote:depends if you mean liquid or total including assets, personally i have stopped holding liquid because i end up losing it all on iwantisk so i buy assets instead but trading never worked for me either Proof running a gambling site is the best scam in EVE You don't even need to lie. yup but its hard to realise "ah just another bil and ill win this jump freighter" before you know it your down more than the freighter costs in jita
You got scammed every bit as much as the people I used to trick into accepting contracts.
"halp I got my storyline mission item stolen by a ganker, need Elite Drone AI bad, paying 400m - [Want to Buy]: Elite Drone AI" with a contract that's a renamed 'want to sell' contract.
That one probably doesn't work any more, although I guess I could do it with Militants instead. Every mission runner has lots of Militants.
Some RL advice to the player behind the screen - read up on the psychology of gambling if you honestly believe 'I deserve to win soon, it's been ages'. You *need* to take some maths classes IRL to get those misconceptions about probability out of your head - they will cost you a lot of money.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5078
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Posted - 2015.05.08 12:36:50 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Lan Wang wrote:depends if you mean liquid or total including assets, personally i have stopped holding liquid because i end up losing it all on iwantisk so i buy assets instead but trading never worked for me either Proof running a gambling site is the best scam in EVE You don't even need to lie. yup but its hard to realise "ah just another bil and ill win this jump freighter" before you know it your down more than the freighter costs in jita
You got scammed every bit as much as the people I used to trick into accepting contracts.
"halp I got my storyline mission item stolen by a ganker, need Elite Drone AI bad, paying 400m - [Want to Buy]: Elite Drone AI" with a contract that's a renamed 'want to sell' contract.
That one probably doesn't work any more, although I guess I could do it with Militants instead. Every mission runner has lots of Militants.
Some RL advice to the player behind the screen - read up on the psychology of gambling if you honestly believe 'I deserve to win soon, it's been ages'. You *need* to take some maths classes IRL to get those misconceptions about probability out of your head - they will cost you a lot of money.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5083
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:03:55 -
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HeXxploiT wrote:Know your products know your markets. Many in eve such as winners of the T2 BPO lotteries just ended up with that money in their lap but still don't have a clue how to make isk. The real trick is to take the capital you have and turn it into more capital. 70% of my assets are items that I believe will be worth more in future then their current valuation. Sitting on stale assets is wasted profit potential. I keep enough liquid isk to trade with and that's it. Taking time to understand products in the eve universe is key as then one can have confidence in one's investment. Successful big traders work the same way as successful small traders just with more expensive items.
Liquid ISK can be a productive asset if you have it on the day a balance change is announced.
Fly/JC to Jita, buy 10b worth of something that you have good reason to believe will go up, and you can make enough to merit having had that 10b sitting idle for a while.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5083
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Posted - 2015.05.09 02:17:40 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:What if ISK would not make / brake the day, but a reliable turnover to accomplish your EVE goals?
Sitting on a nice PLEX a month in income, thats enough... isn't it?
My net worth in trade would be about 45 bil, I could double it, but it would double the work.
Lets just be happy.
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To answer your question, how rich are people?
Its better to ask how rich are Corporations, Alliances, Coalitions?
The big (single) players in hubs / markets have not just their own funds, they manage funds of other people.
So, asking traders; what is your NW minus loans? would give a better answer to your question.
For me that would be about 40 bil NW
ISK is only ever a means to an end. The more ISK you have, the more insane the end can be.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5084
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Posted - 2015.05.09 10:43:34 -
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HeXxploiT wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:HeXxploiT wrote:Know your products know your markets. Many in eve such as winners of the T2 BPO lotteries just ended up with that money in their lap but still don't have a clue how to make isk. The real trick is to take the capital you have and turn it into more capital. 70% of my assets are items that I believe will be worth more in future then their current valuation. Sitting on stale assets is wasted profit potential. I keep enough liquid isk to trade with and that's it. Taking time to understand products in the eve universe is key as then one can have confidence in one's investment. Successful big traders work the same way as successful small traders just with more expensive items. Liquid ISK can be a productive asset if you have it on the day a balance change is announced. Fly/JC to Jita, buy 10b worth of something that you have good reason to believe will go up, and you can make enough to merit having had that 10b sitting idle for a while. Which is exactly what I was talking about when I said keeping enough cash to trade. It's no different then when a company like apple uses its PR department to announce the release of a new iphone. Want to have the isk on hand to buy on news(or rumor).
I regard trading capital, production capital and speculation capital as different amounts.
Presently I hold about 30b of each and about 10b of idle capital (fitted combat ships, etc)
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5086
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Posted - 2015.05.10 09:29:22 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Buy low sell high or invest low and cash high.
Always have your expenses covered by your plex outcome: You dont want to bleed out your investment pool.
Copy people: How are they making isk, how much vs which effort?
Learn to think on your own: what why how
Think like a hedgefund: how fast are you getting your profit % back vs the investment that is locked up? Is it worth the % vs time?
Last but most important; park your spacerich assets on a secure, privet, anonymous account
Near friends call me jewish spacerich, i just call myselve extremely burned out and bored: Besides Isk milking, tear collecting drives EVE> do you know what you are going to do when there is no challenge in doing both anymore?
Either set bigger goals that require the use of that ISK, or give it to someone (me) that will.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
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5086
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Posted - 2015.05.10 23:59:00 -
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Xtreem wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Another HowTo Trillionaire:
Get a lot of T2BPOs dirt cheap in early eve days, wait for insanely inflated sell rates, sell em for a super sick price, trillionaire check. Pretend to be a professional trader. I am in game chums with 3 people who have over 1T 2 of them indeed got rich this way. I remember when i was a younger char a T2 cap recharger BPO reached 30bil in price on the forums and being in awe of such isk.. seems almost nothing now. Needs more sinks.
We did just have a very, very, very large sink added in Crius last year.
It's not ISK that's in excess in the economy, it's products.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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Sabriz Adoudel
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
5145
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Posted - 2015.06.25 06:03:52 -
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Gary Bell wrote:I hoenstly find unless your really good at playing the market the easiest way to make isk is char selling. It requires a longer term investment but if you make the right type of chars they can go for a Bil isk per mil sp which is a pretty good return for the cost of skillbooks.
Especially with the changes to the skillque where they take near no input and if you have the Money to spend a few RL dollars on the beginner packs. You can get the skill boosters and then buddy invite yourself and you get the game time back on your main.
**** exhumer toons and basic starter PVp toons and things can be worth like 3 bil in a 60 day timespan so you essentially double your money
High risk in that - I can name someone that made over a trillion on training characters for resale, but that lost more than I've ever owned when game mechanic changes obliterated the value of around 100 characters he had in training.
Think they lost 0.4T out of the washup of the Phoebe changes.
They wound up ahead overall, but the ~0.7T they made over their entire time training and trading characters was not a great return for the amount of ISK they had tied up in it.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
I enforce the New Haliama Code of Conduct via wardec ops. Ignorance of the law is no excuse - read about requirements for highsec miners at www.minerbumping.com
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